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Brooklyn Venues [message #601350] Mon, 01 May 2006 10:33 Go to next message
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Hi All:

Well, I've just become engaged and am looking for a place to have the reception in Brooklyn or downtown Manhattan. Help! I'm on a pretty tight budget and looking at a guest list of 100 to 125. We would love to do it in a restaurant or somewhere without so many variables, but I'm open. (The ceremony will be in a church in Brooklyn Heights). Any Brooklyn brides out there with suggestions? Oh--and probably this December or January, so no need for outdoor space. Any suggestions from you smart ladies would be much appreciated.
Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #601497] Mon, 01 May 2006 13:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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66 water street is definitely inexpensive. their space is quite raw but they allow you to decorate it anyway you want. a friend of mine was looking to get married there but decided against it.

Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #602113] Tue, 02 May 2006 19:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i just wrote a response with outdoor venues and then reread your post--- i am keeping the original in case others who are looking for venues in bklyn read this answer. bubby's is a great choice for you....have you already looked there?


we are looking at the tobacco warehouse, another RAW RAW RAW space, and one that is not booking for 2007, so if you want more info on that, let me know.

http://www.brooklynbridgepark.org/index.cfm?objectid=6A6CEA6 4-3048-7098-AFE502CA5965A435

it's our first choice but coming with many issues.

we looked at prospect park, and barbara was very nice and accomodating-

http://www.prospectpark.org/plan/main.cfm?target=home

but it just didn't trump the TW for us...yet.

there is the foundry which many people like in long island city i think. also the NYBG up in teh bronx.

our friend is getting married at Bubby's with great views- i think that's just bubbys.com

hope this helps! congratulations!

[Updated on: Tue, 02 May 2006 19:41]


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Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #602119] Tue, 02 May 2006 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't know how tight your budget is, but I was blown away by the beautiful library at the Brooklyn Historical Society. They charge 5K just for the space, and they have to approve your caterer (or pull from their list). The price was too much for me, but if you can swing that price range, it's worth a look. You can't have dancing in the library, but you can in the lobby downstairs.

AND it's right in Brooklyn Heights.

ETD to add location note

[Updated on: Tue, 02 May 2006 19:39]

Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #602120] Tue, 02 May 2006 19:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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great idea, CG--did they have a tight limit for people?

thanks so much-


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Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #602154] Tue, 02 May 2006 21:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can't remember it, but I was pushing it with 130 guests.

I think the library can hold 100 for a sit down dinner, a few more for cocktail-type mingleing. It is a NYC landmarked interior space that has just been restored. It also smells like books and old wood, which I love.
Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #602160] Tue, 02 May 2006 21:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thank you- we are 150...good luck!


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Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #602183] Tue, 02 May 2006 23:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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don't know if you're still looking, but i'm getting married at bam in june. in bamcafe. the space is super cheap for bkln residents(under $1000), but you have to pay union salaries to the bam workers - upwards of $2000 + depending on what you want done.
great performances is the resident caterer there. you can go with someone else, but everything still goes through them. i'm just going with gp. have been very pleased.
good luck


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Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #602217] Wed, 03 May 2006 07:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I ended up with a venue in Manhattan, on 76th and Central Park West: Landmark on the Park. It is a grand and slightly funky historic stone church with great catering/kitchen facilities. You hold the event right in the church, there aren't any pews or benches.

Weddings of 150 or fewer are $3500, including tables and chairs. Groups up to 500 are more expensive. I've found the event coordinator, Darius Lang, to be friendly, responsive, and the most understanding WIC person I've found wrt a tight budget.
Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #602423] Wed, 03 May 2006 13:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow, thank you all SO MUCH for this information. It's very, very helpful as I start down this path.
Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #602439] Wed, 03 May 2006 13:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the landmark on the park website is offline-- but darius is back! He will send a packet of info first and then take a meeting. (this is the nyc location- everything happens in one room though)

stage six - is the new place in the brooklyn navy yard. I got some prices: sat's are a minimum of 200 people at $208 a head. Sundays are 150 people at 163 a head. If you book for something before june 30, 2007, there are some discounts, but i dont' know them because we haven't gone to our meeting on saturday yet.

Anybody book there yet?

[Updated on: Mon, 15 May 2006 19:44]


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Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #607017] Mon, 15 May 2006 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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tobacco warehouse is not telling anyone whether the permits will be available until mid-late summer. Even then, the entire proposed 80 acre park could be under some form on construction or another for quite a while. as chris said "we are dealing with the city- you have seen how they have handled the world trade center site and how long that has taken"


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Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #607119] Tue, 16 May 2006 06:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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you all might have seen this, but just to throw it out there- i picked up new york magazine a couple weeks ago b/c it was their wedding issue. it has what seems to me- coming from philly- an enormous list of venues in the back. it also has a feature on different weddings by style and budget (i don't have it in front of me, but one budget option was at a loft in williamsburg), and of course, real weddings- one of which was at the tobacco warehouse. oh, it's online- here- http://nymag.com/weddings/index.html.

sorry for the bridal porn reference, but just in case it's helpful/useful... Embarassed


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Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #608173] Thu, 18 May 2006 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I guess I can understand why you're not asking this under the NYC vendors thread - I feel badly that we may seem like a group that's not welcoming to NY newbies. We chat with one another a lot but don't be afraid to just push your way in and keep posting your questions, etc.
I know several brooklyn venues were mentioned in some of the earlier pages so you may want to thumb through there.
a couple of them were mentioned by me so I'll tell you here but still invite you to c'mon over! Very Happy
I'd looked into two places in Bklyn when we were looking for a restaurant. Our guest list grew beyond their capacities but I've always enjoyed eating at:
Palmira's and Tempo.
They both have rooms that are "separate" and can accomodate parties and I felt were reasonably priced.
I'd definitely recommend either of them.

ETA: I just realized that you may have over 100 people. That could be a big problem for you in getting into a restaurant in bklyn or manhattan. Most will probably charge you a site fee to shut down the place for the night - unless they have a separate room that can accomodate your group.
Also wanted to caution you that you may find that many restaurants are not overly willing to give you time for a private party in December when they get a lot of holiday traffic. Certanly ask but just a heads up. Also, if it's a restaurant you want and if you find one big enough - then definitely look into January for a better price.
I'd even suggest as early in the month as possible so that, if you like them, you can use their holiday decorations rather than spend your own money at the florist!

EATA: I can't remember what their capacity is, but you may also want to check out the Seaman's Institute in lower manhattan.

[Updated on: Thu, 18 May 2006 13:12]

Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #608218] Thu, 18 May 2006 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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that's sweet gigi- i think for a lot of us it's just that brooklyn has such limits (and you are right, especially with a larger party), and comes with pretty specific issues. NYC almost feels too big to tackle for me sometimes.

You gals on the nyc thread are great, don't worry that we feel left out! (you are also all at a pretty good clip ahead of a lot of us, which i really value in your advice)

I will post on sat about abigail kirsch's new place, stage six


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Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #608358] Thu, 18 May 2006 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We're having a similarly-sized wedding at Pochron Studios in Dumbo (pochronstudios.com). It's a no frills loft space and you have to do everything on your own (caterer, tables, chairs, etc.), but Galina is great to work with and the view of the Manhattan skyline is hard to top.
Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #608576] Fri, 19 May 2006 09:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for saying so, Gigi! I actually didn't even know about the NYC thread, so that's why I just threw this query out there. But I spent a way too long chunk of time browsing through that string yesterday (at work of course.) Great info, thanks!
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TheHeights: thanks so much! we do love the view, and will look at that place too- are you having your ceremony there? We have spoken to a bunch of caterers before (when we thought the TW was a go) - i assume this space has no exclusive list...

did you look at the navy yard?

thanks again!

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Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #608712] Fri, 19 May 2006 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We probably won't have the ceremony there (the plan at the moment is to find a church in Brooklyn Heights and then have everyone walk from there to the reception in Dumbo), but it is entirely possible to have the ceremony at Pochron if you want. There's a large outdoor deck that would be perfect if the weather cooperates. There's no exclusive list of caterers. In fact, we're probably going to have a local bbq restaurant cater it for us. The other thing we love about Pochron is that there's no time limit or noise ordinaces to deal with. We can stay late into the night if we'd like (I guess as long as the alcohol holds up...).

We didn't look at the navy yard--it was out of our price range.
Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #608784] Fri, 19 May 2006 14:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thanks for your feedback--we are all ABOUT BBQ- that was the plan for the warehouse when it was a contendaaa. your day sounds beautiful, i love the idea of people walking down through those pretty streets! how soon is your wedding?

I am starting to really get energy again- i went through a period of crazy planning, then got overwhelmed with all teh buzz around it, stopped short for 3 weeks and now have energy to tackle it all. i just go back and forth from "it's just a party, we could use that money for a down payment and maybe be able to stay in ny" to "but it's our wedding"...

Just spoke to galina- you were right- she is super friendly and the main thing with such a raw space is that availability...plus they are completely open in sept 2007 for right now.

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Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #608855] Fri, 19 May 2006 16:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow September 07-- you're so on top of it! Our wedding is on October 28th of this year and I feel like I've barely scratched the surface when it comes to getting everything done that needs to be done for this to happen. To be fair, we just this week closed on our apartment in Park Slope so that has taken priority (and money!). Anyway, good luck with Galina and let me know how it goes.
Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #609045] Sat, 20 May 2006 12:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the heights: congratulations on your place!!! that is HUGE, and you have your place and date etc...you are probably in better shape than you give yourself credit for. I will let you know how it goes with Galina

we just got back from. stage 6 - it's under construction, but they have great storyboards and pictures. It's a modern space- a sort of upscale old glamour feel...it will be a beautiful space, but not for our wedding. The prices are pretty reasonable if you get in before june 30th of 07, and even after that it's ok (but the limits on people can be rough- sat's you need 200, friday and sunday is a 150 and that's what we have anyway.) I can't remember the exact prices, but it's something like 133/head in april on a friday, and ranges to 154ish a head for sundays before june. after that, it's 163 or something for sundays and a little less for a friday.

Valerie is who you would talk to, and she is really nice. there is a LOT included in an abigail kirsch place- valet parking, amazing food, (even the wedding cakes were amazing looking) i will post more later- right now i am just discourged. it just wastn' for us, but the price/what's included and food were so ON that it's hard not to want to force it!


[Updated on: Wed, 24 May 2006 07:30]


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Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #610604] Wed, 24 May 2006 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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PRICES: (sorry for the double posting, but i know that there are people in the bklyn thread who are not in the thread for NYC and environs)

stage six:
valerie perez: 718-237-1919
(i only got prices for friday and sunday since we only have 150 people)

friday night in april: 133/person (and the last friday is still open)

sunday in april is 156- that is for the night or day, not twilight which is more

may and june: friday nights are 142 and sunday was 164 (i think twilight? i can't remember)

september of 07: friday night is 158 and sunday was 183 (again, can't remember if that was twilight)

also dont' forget to add 22% grat and 8.375% tax. also a $1,000 site fee. plus a $10/car lot fee. (there is valet, but the entire place charges that, not abigail. we would do a shuttle from the hotel to save on that.

the Lighthouse
peak months: may, june, august, september, october
friday nights: 175/person (peak month) 160 (off peak)
sunday night: same
sunday twilight: 195 (peak) 175 (off peak)

New York Botanical in the bronx:
718-220-0300
i only asked about peak months, because that's where my options fell:
friday night: 145
sunday day (11:30-5): 155
sunday twilight: somehting like 175- i can't read my writing
sunday night: 155

PHEW. hope that helps!

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Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #611368] Thu, 25 May 2006 12:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here is the info on the Palm house at the Brooklyn Botanical Garden.
They are completely booked for Saturday nights through most of 2007. Friday nights too- but they start opening up august and then again in late September. they have days in june 2007, and probably many days other than that as well.

I spoke with denise on the phone who was nice, but we met with charles, who was rushed. Ask to meet with denise. Yes, I know they will book it regardless of how accommodating he is, but so will the other places we looked at and he was just not a good representation of the place, and further I wonder if it’s hard to get a hold of them once you are booked. (compare this with the navy yard who iws eager to make a good impression, you KNOW you will get the attention you need)

Benefits of night v. day: daytime you get only one option for the ceremony, in front of the weeping willows. Very pretty, but there are other places at night to choose from. Nights are 6pm on. Your guests cannot bring food and drink outside during the day, at night they can. During the day, the public is there, at night they are not.parkign fee during the day is $6/car, free at night.

Prices:
Evenings depending on the time of year the location starts at 2,250 and goes to 4k. Minimum guests are 150 sat but Friday Is 125. maximum is 300.
Per head cost: Sunday-Friday: 140-150 Saturday 150-160.

Daytime: site fee is 2k-2500. all days catering is 110-120 per head.

[Updated on: Sat, 27 May 2006 11:01]


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Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #611459] Thu, 25 May 2006 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Great info BB2007! I would have to say that if you have the bucks and the time (i.e. you're not getting hitched too soon to find a good date)you'd have a gorgeous, gorgeous 'do there! It was way, way out of our price range but I've always loved those gardens and we've had many happy times there. How can you go wrong?
Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #611510] Thu, 25 May 2006 15:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thanks so much linamouse-- i was getting so tired of losing our places or not being excited about a place. (the tobacco warehouse is a dead issue at this point (now chris doesn't even call me back to tell me the bad news!) and after that i just didn't fall in love with anywhere...) but this feels ALMOST right, we just have to make sure the rushed feeling doesn't translate into the whole process. i had my meltdown on washington avenue, just feeling like we were going to wind up somewhere that didn't have any meaning for us, cookie cutter...two months of planning stress came out at the poor man all at once! (he couldn't win, if he said our wedding woudl be perfect i woudl get mad; if he agreed with me i would tell him he wasn't being supportive!) so we will talk it out tonight, and i know all our pre-chosen vendors are available!

We can wait until sept 2007, so you are right, though i was sorry to hear tht all of june was booked...the gardens are just SO PRETTY right now!

thanks so much, it's nice to know that someone knows the space so well!

Plus, we made an appointment with the original Denise and over the phone i told them that our ONLY hesitation was charles, so i have a feeling they will be pretty accomodating (but is it a true representation? the pictures i have from this morning show the guide 12 ft ahead of MrBB walking through the gardens!)

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Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #611546] Thu, 25 May 2006 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I do hear what you're saying BB about the "cookie cutter" factor, but I think that's not an issue with the Botanic Garden--or really most of these places in Brooklyn--if you're like me, about half the wedding guests will be from out of town (including groom's whole family) so to them it will be crazy different from what they're used to with most weddings. I think the BBG at night will just be magical. That's crappy that the guy was so weird, but as long as you keep being assertive and asking for what you need you should be fine. Listen to me go on and on--like I'm an expert! I know nothing! Anyway, that's my humble opinion.
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thanks, i think you are right- i think with ALL this wedding stuff, things can look (to us) all the same, but to anyone outside they will see the unique pieces. It's like that old philosophical thought "have i ever had a thought that nobody has thought" etc...

thanks so much, once we set a date i will be really happy. and you are an expert- we all have to become experts in some way!

update: we set a date! and booked it! sept 14, 2007 (a friday- not our first choice but they didn't have any sat nights until 2008) and you were right, denise was SO good, and it wasn't a put on, she was truly truly amazing. we felt so much better after leaving, especially since we probably would have booked and hoped for hte best (after the rushed meeting with the other guy) but this made us feel 100% better.

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Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #614474] Fri, 02 June 2006 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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there is a NYC and area 2007 thread:

with a growing list of vendors in teh second message on page one. I will keep updating it so that the list stays easy to find.


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Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #615162] Mon, 05 June 2006 14:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Congratulations on booking a space BB! That's great news, and I'm glad your experience went well.

As for me, not having such good luck. The BSEC apparently lost our deposit (this 3 weeks after we signed the contract and he assured us the check we had mailed was in a drawer somewhere), and now I'm questioning whether the space/organizers over there are adequate for the task. So my question is--does anyone have a lock on how BAM would break down in terms of cost per person? I'm not sure whether I can stomach starting to look all over again, and that's the one place we didn't really look into, and now I'm wondering why--but maybe it's way too expensive? Please let me know if anyone has this info!

Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #615178] Mon, 05 June 2006 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What does that mean, lost your deposit? That is crazy. They seem like good people, but I can understand your concern. I have had limited email returns from our potential officiant (this is the Brooklyn society for ethical culture, right?)

Post this question on the NY and environs thread in vendors-here I know those women will reply quickly. I think one of them is getting married at BAM. I feel awful for you, keep us posted. And maybe one lost check just means you have to keep on top of them…let us know what you decide…

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Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #615542] Tue, 06 June 2006 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi there,

This is my first entry and I too am looking for reception sites in Bky Heights for a Sept 2007 wedding. All the postings I've read have been really helpful. I wanted to ask if anyone has considered the river cafe? also, someone here i think, franskins, mentioned she was getting married at bam. i wanted to her ask for more details in terms of cost and how easy it was to reserve a space there. thank you.
Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #615549] Tue, 06 June 2006 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The river café is BEAUTIFUL, but our party was too big for it. I don’t know the cost, though I am sure it is at least 150/head…when you get the information, can you post it? One thing you save on at the RC are decorations- the view and the flowers everywhere in there I bet are close to enough.

Also, make sure to check out the NY 2007 thread, there are more people there who may have looked at the RC. here


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Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #615553] Tue, 06 June 2006 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you for the reply. I am totally new to this and was wondering what the average cost would for a reception per person.
Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #615558] Tue, 06 June 2006 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello-
Do you mean the entire wedding, including all of the vendors? Usually the place or the caterer tell you a per-head cost, but of course the entire wedding is so much more. I don’t know what you mean by average—I know that in NY it is difficult to find a full service caterer (one that brings the kitchen to a raw site) for less than 114/head- because we were trying that for a while. For reception sites that are all inclusive, it can help if you are willing to go on a Friday night or sat day…you saw the prices above for the places I have looked at. I think that if you want to do an outdoor thing, you can run the risk of it costing the same if not more than a wedding at an all inclusive place…you really have to do the math before you decide to do a seemingly less expensive option (when we were thinking of the tobacco warehouse, it would have been way more than the 150/head we are paying now at the palmhouse, b/c we would have had to rent lighting, kitchen, utensils, security, etc etc etc. and at first I never would have thought it would have been as much as it was turning into)

Bubby’s is a great place in bklyn, a friend of mine is getting married there and her costs are pretty reasonable.

I suggest browsing through the vendors threads (the NY and environs one is up to page 99 now, it’s great reading!) and then see how much you feel you know.

And congratulations, if you are new to this, that must mean you are recently engaged?!


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Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #615561] Tue, 06 June 2006 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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YES!

i actually looked into bubby's and after a few emails with the coodinator, i have not heard back from her at all despite have left phone and email messages. do you know if your friend has had a good experience with bubby's. this is all very nerve racking, especially since i know that places fill up quickly. i really think bubby's would be great, even though i was always against buffetts and that's all they do. i'm still waiting to hear back from the river cafe. i wonder how expensive that would be. i also looked into abigail kirsch. however, our reception is only for 100. thanks for all the information.
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the palmhouse has a 100 minimum on fridays and sundays i think...the RC is pretty expensive from what i have heard but if you only have 100, that might help!

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Astroballerina that was exactly my experience with Bubby's! (I just posted that about Bubby's for you BB on the NY thread.) And yes, it's all very confusing and shocking costwise, Astro, but it will sink in soon. Hang in there.
Re: Brooklyn Venues [message #615606] Tue, 06 June 2006 15:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Astroballerina  is currently offline Astroballerina
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I just read your entry on the other thread and Bubby's didn't tell me that I couldn't rent the entire space for 100 cause thats how big we want to keep. Have you been trying to communicate with JoJo? She was really helpful at first but her communications have been really spotty and its really frustrating cause she's the one who told me to book early. I am so sorry if you've already posted this, but when are you getting married?
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from my friend:

bubby's has been VERY responsive and great and i have no complaints (just happiness) with them so far!

i'm sorry you guys are going through this!


just B squared, since it's past 07
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